<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Techie question..]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Techie question..</p><p>I'm currently on <a href="https://skrivel.se/tags/matrix" rel="tag">#<span>matrix</span></a> and have been for a couple of years. I see people talk about <a href="https://skrivel.se/tags/xmpp" rel="tag">#<span>xmpp</span></a>. Could some one give me a quick rundown of how they compare.</p><p>boosts appreciated</p><p>I'm interested in comparinsons relating to:<br />app and platform support<br />self hosting support<br />ability to pay someone for hosting<br />encryption level<br />general usability for "non techie" family and friends<br />community/political drama<br />comunication types supported (text/voip/sending files, and so on)</p>]]></description><link>https://bbs.spacc.eu.org/new/topic/5fdef180-c65c-46c4-bfd1-81acd45e282a/techie-question..</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2026 21:27:41 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://bbs.spacc.eu.org/new/topic/5fdef180-c65c-46c4-bfd1-81acd45e282a.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2026 17:19:09 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Techie question.. on Wed, 11 Feb 2026 08:28:47 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/poetaster%40mastodon.gamedev.place">@<span>poetaster</span></a></span> I also run a jitsi server, but that one is on a different VM where I allow the jitsi packages to do whatever they want with their own prosody server, so that I don't have to deal with breakages when it updates.</p><p>This is how I've set up the actual XMPP server, instead <a href="https://docs.trueelena.org/self_hosting/modern_xmpp_server/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">docs.trueelena.org/self_hostin…</a></p>]]></description><link>https://bbs.spacc.eu.org/new/post/https://social.gl-como.it/objects/3e3ce0df-3069-8c3d-bf7b-698214612148</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://bbs.spacc.eu.org/new/post/https://social.gl-como.it/objects/3e3ce0df-3069-8c3d-bf7b-698214612148</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[valhalla@social.gl-como.it]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2026 08:28:47 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Techie question.. on Tue, 10 Feb 2026 19:31:10 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/valhalla%40social.gl-como.it">@<span>valhalla</span></a></span> ok, good to know and point for research. I had, some years back, gotten jitsi's prosody config to my liking, but haven't been 'there' for years. Been a lot of requests coming my way...</p>]]></description><link>https://bbs.spacc.eu.org/new/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/poetaster/statuses/116047994554483737</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://bbs.spacc.eu.org/new/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/poetaster/statuses/116047994554483737</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[poetaster@mastodon.gamedev.place]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2026 19:31:10 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Techie question.. on Tue, 10 Feb 2026 19:12:02 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/poetaster%40mastodon.gamedev.place">@<span>poetaster</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/openess%40skrivel.se">@<span>openess</span></a></span> I am (running coturn), and I believe at least one of the users on my server is using it successfully.</p><p>Personally I don't do a lot of video calls :)</p>]]></description><link>https://bbs.spacc.eu.org/new/post/https://social.gl-como.it/objects/3e3ce0df-5769-8b83-02a2-3a0901223606</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://bbs.spacc.eu.org/new/post/https://social.gl-como.it/objects/3e3ce0df-5769-8b83-02a2-3a0901223606</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[valhalla@social.gl-como.it]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2026 19:12:02 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Techie question.. on Tue, 10 Feb 2026 19:09:04 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/openess%40skrivel.se">@<span>openess</span></a></span> the basics, encrypted one on one and group chats are simple to self host with either ejabberd or prosody. It's more difficult to host audio/video chat. Who is doing their own turn/stun?</p>]]></description><link>https://bbs.spacc.eu.org/new/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/poetaster/statuses/116047907688099940</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://bbs.spacc.eu.org/new/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/poetaster/statuses/116047907688099940</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[poetaster@mastodon.gamedev.place]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2026 19:09:04 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Techie question.. on Tue, 10 Feb 2026 18:20:46 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="https://skrivel.se/users/openess">@<span>openess</span></a></span> I don't have direct experience with matrix</p><p>I self-host xmpp and I'd call it one of the easiest things to self-host: I did the original installation (years ago) using debian packages on a cheap vps and now I have to take care about it for a few minutes every now and then for general system security updates, plus once every two years for a distribution upgrade (half a day? when things go *badly*) and maybe a few hours another once per year when compliance.conversations.im tells me that I need to enable some other feature.</p><p>I know that conversations.im offers managed hosting, and I believe that there are other places, but I've never really looked into them</p><p>I'm not qualified to talk about the quality of the encryption, but with modern clients it's usually active (e2e, of course) by default</p><p>For my non-techie family members I've created an account on my server, which probably solved what I suspect could be the major hurdle, and since then they have been able to use it without significant problems. The main support I have to give them is reset their password when they change devices and have lost / forgotten it.</p><p>I'm not aware of significant drama (it may be there, but not very visible?)</p><p>It supports text and sending files. video calls is available between users of some clients, but it's not something I need, so I don't know which clients they are.</p><p>one caveat is that xmpp is *old* and there are a lot of old clients that aren't kept updated, and using those will result in a significantly worse experience. For non-techie users I solved the issue by telling them which client to use (conversations, on android), and there is a word-of-mouth list of clients that are guaranteed to be a safe choice: said conversations, gajim and dino-im on pc, and I believe monal on iThings; there are other clients that are good, if somebody wants to experiment a bit, but those are a good first choice.</p>]]></description><link>https://bbs.spacc.eu.org/new/post/https://social.gl-como.it/objects/3e3ce0df-4469-8b76-fedb-c4c097125342</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://bbs.spacc.eu.org/new/post/https://social.gl-como.it/objects/3e3ce0df-4469-8b76-fedb-c4c097125342</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[valhalla@social.gl-como.it]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2026 18:20:46 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>