@catsalad @JessTheUnstill Situations like this are why I still have the same speakerphone I've had since 2000. I'm not going to stay tethered to a phone just to listen to that.

It's also clear that companies that do this do so to dissuade people from doing whatever you're trying to do. It also conveniently (for them) means there's no written record of what went on, unless you make one yourself.