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    When the Open Social Web Hybridizes: Raccoon for Friendica is a new app...

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    • macfranc@poliverso.orgM Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
      macfranc@poliverso.org @cannedtuna@lemmy.world
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      @cannedtuna I understand what you mean: you're referring to the post published by @lorenaal (here's Lemmy's post and here's the original on Friendica).

      As you can see from the image, the user has been around for years (since August 8, 2021).
      friendica.world/profile/lorena…
      The date you find on Lemmy is because the user has likely never participated in a discussion on Lemmy.world.
      lemmy.world/u/lorenaal@friendi…

      I therefore ask you to amend your comment in light of the arguments I've presented.

      https://poliverso.org/photo/16384622216a2c07e69110f327684798-0.png

      lorenaal@friendica.worldL cannedtuna@lemmy.worldC 2 Risposte Ultima Risposta Rispondi Cita 0
      • lorenaal@friendica.worldL Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
        lorenaal@friendica.world @macfranc@poliverso.org
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        @macfranc @cannedtuna How come I'm also registered on lemmy.world? I've never registered on lemmy.world.
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        • cannedtuna@lemmy.worldC Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
          cannedtuna@lemmy.world @macfranc@poliversity.it
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          New account, was an hour old at the time I wrote the above, first thing they do is hop to this post to comment about downloading it.

          There’s been a slew of posts recently about new apps, primarily on !selfhosted@lemmy.world that appear to be AI coded.

          I did see you’ve got a number of people involved in this project so, maybe it’s unwarranted suspicion. My apologies if that’s the case. Just not a fan of AI.

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          • J Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
            jerkface@lemmy.ca @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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            You are not gonna like the next 20 years.

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            • cannedtuna@lemmy.worldC Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
              cannedtuna@lemmy.world @macfranc@poliverso.org
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              Interesting how Lemmy shows the date. Fair enough.

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              • macfranc@poliverso.orgM Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                macfranc@poliverso.org @lorenaal@friendica.world
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                @lorenaal no, tranquilla 😅 non ti sei mai iscritta su lemmy.world. Quella è solo la pagina del tuo account Friendica che viene riportata su un'altra istanza. Si tratta di una cosa normale, perché oggi sei "entrata" in un Thread ospitato in una community di lemmy.world e quindi è stato creato un "profilo fantasma" che serve all'istanza lemmy.world per gestire i tuoi post e le tue interazioni

                @cannedtuna

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                • L Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                  lokalhorst@feddit.org @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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                  There are many cases where AI is harmful, translation from Italian to English is not one of them.

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                  • macfranc@poliversity.itM Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                    macfranc@poliversity.it @cannedtuna@lemmy.world
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                    @cannedtuna

                    New account, was an hour old at the time I wrote the above, first thing they do is hop to this post to comment about downloading it.

                    ...and as I explained here, it wasn't a "new" account, but rather one that was "intercepted" by Lemmy.world only when he replied to my post.

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                    • G Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                      givesomefucks@lemmy.world @lokalhorst@feddit.org
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                      ...

                      So you think OP honestly typed it themselves and just used standard AI formatting?

                      Bro...

                      AI may have wrote it first in Italian and then translated. But even if OP won't admit it, a human didn't write the post in any language.

                      They're just lying because they can't image it's obvious to some people

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                      • lorenaal@friendica.worldL Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                        lorenaal@friendica.world @macfranc@poliverso.org
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                        @macfranc @cannedtuna Oddio che casino! 🤯
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                        • enzoesco@poliverso.orgE Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                          enzoesco@poliverso.org @cannedtuna@lemmy.world
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                          You @cannedtuna and you @givesomefucks are the new Sherlock Holmes and John Watson 🕵🧑‍💼️‍♂️
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                          • macfranc@poliversity.itM Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                            macfranc@poliversity.it @openstars@piefed.social
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                            @OpenStars

                            I am not sure that you would get this unless I add your user tag @macfranc ?

                            Yes, I'd still get it, even if you didn't mention me. The problem arises when you reply to someone who replied to me: in that case, I might not receive the notification. Unfortunately (as often happens), the fault lies with Mastodon, not Lemmy/Piefed.

                            It is not your fault. The entire Fediverse is still being built, and it only gets better over time.:-) The fact that Lemmy + PieFed + mBin + nodeBB can intercommunicate at all is fantastic, even though yes there are some kinks remaining to be worked out:-).

                            I also believe this statement. Since I've been an instance administrator (Friendica, Lemmy, NodeBB, and Mastodon Glitch-soc), I've always been concerned with how the Fediverse software integrates with each other and with spreading knowledge of the various platforms

                            My intention was to make light of the reasoning behind criticism of your post, while pointing out to Threadiverse users that once you get past that, the actual content is quite solid. So less “wall of text” than merely “odd-looking introduction”. It’s a good post!

                            Thank you for your feedback. It's somewhere between a press release and an informational post about the Fediverse. I'm only surprised because, usually, the criticisms about length come from Mastodon users, not Lemmy users...

                            And yeah the giant text looks weird, haha! 😂

                            Usually, the problem is solved at the user interface level. BBCode and Markdown have a certain number of standard levels for titles, and it's up to the final interpreter (the interface) to manage their display based on the tool (desktop browser, mobile browser, mobile app, etc.).

                            Especially since at first it is a repeat of the title, but then goes into new territory after that. I do not know if there is anything that can be done about it though, except further code development on the side of all the myriad varieties of recipients of the message.

                            Repeating the title, on the other hand, is the best possible solution for integrating threads opened in the forumverse by microblogging users: Lemmy takes the first 200 characters of the first paragraph and converts them into a title, disabling formatting, links, and mentions. That data, however, is re-proposed at the beginning of the post text.
                            I understand there are some issues, but I don't see any better solution than this.

                            I should add that, unfortunately, Mastodon's recent implementation of quoted posts has made it difficult for Lemmy to manage opening posts, because Mastodon formats posts that quote another post as:

                            Re: fedilinkhttps

                            Post text

                            And therefore, the title of a Lemmy thread would become
                            "Re: fedilinkhttps" 🤬

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                            • phantaloons@piefed.zipP Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                              phantaloons@piefed.zip @macfranc@poliversity.it
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                              Add in Orbot/Proxy support and I'm there day 1

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                              • phantaloons@piefed.zipP Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                                phantaloons@piefed.zip @jerkface@lemmy.ca
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                                Tbf, no one will,...

                                but still!

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                                • macfranc@poliversity.itM Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                                  macfranc@poliversity.it @phantaloons@piefed.zip
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                                  @Phantaloons The idea would be very interesting. Could you explain it better? In fact, at first glance, it would seem simpler to run Orbot directly before launching the application.
                                  Perhaps rather than adding Orbot to the application, it would be better to create a RaccoOnion fork 😅

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                                  • phantaloons@piefed.zipP Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                                    phantaloons@piefed.zip @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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                                    If the code is Ai slop, we might could, I dunno... have some proof? Maybe? It just might help your argument avoid another goal-post move.

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                                    • phantaloons@piefed.zipP Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                                      phantaloons@piefed.zip @macfranc@poliversity.it
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                                      Any app can be aimed at by Orbot, but if orbot goes down or loses connection, the app doesn't discriminate.

                                      XMPP apps adopt this from Conversations, there's a setting to only listen to the proxy/orbot only.

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                                      • G Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                                        givesomefucks@lemmy.world @phantaloons@piefed.zip
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                                        have some proof?

                                        OP saying it?

                                        the development wasn’t done with vibe coding, but was done over the course of almost two years, integrating observations and addressing issues.

                                        But if everyone stopped to investigate every piece of slop thrown in front of them, all they'd do all day is that.

                                        It just might help your argument avoid another goal-post move.

                                        This isn't an argument, if you think goalposts are moving it means you still don't understand any of it.

                                        But most importantly, I don't really give a fuck if people end up understanding. Go for it bro, slop em up, get those steaks super sloppy and slick your hair back reaaaaaal nice.

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                                        • openstars@piefed.socialO Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                                          openstars@piefed.social @macfranc@poliversity.it
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                                          There are so many fascinating differences in how your comment reply here shows vs. not.

                                          Like on all of https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/70448923 and https://lemmy.world/post/48069327 and even https://piefed.zip/comment/5630582 your most recent comments here do not show up at all, despite it having been sent 2 hours ago. Though somehow your earlier comments are visible, but not your latest ones?

                                          And yet I see them on my instance. I am not sure why, or if your tagging my username specifically helped cause that to happen for this instance but somehow no other instances.

                                          The formatting if I ask to "view markdown source" is messed up - everything is on a single line, and some formatting indicators are missing - but the traditional, regular display mode of the message is perfect.

                                          Interrelation between the different platforms still needs improvements, but it is encouraging to see it get better over time.:-)

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                                          • poliverso@feddit.itP Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                                            poliverso@feddit.it @openstars@piefed.social
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                                            I'm still @macfranc@poliversity.it

                                            If I remember correctly, there was a problem in Lemmy that should be fixed with the upcoming 1.0 release and has already been fixed with the latest Piefed releases. This meant that third-level comments that didn't originate from Lemmy or Piefed weren't processed correctly by the platform.

                                            They're out now, but I should compare them with the replies appended to the original post.
                                            https://poliversity.it/@macfranc/116736605177662762

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