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    When the Open Social Web Hybridizes: Raccoon for Friendica is a new app...

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      givesomefucks@lemmy.world @enzoesco@poliverso.org
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      Chatbot accounts always crash out after running out of tokens...

      Always turns into jr high insults after 2-3 replies in a row.

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      • giotras@poliversity.itG Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
        giotras@poliversity.it @macfranc@poliversity.it
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        Questo post è eliminato!
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        • macfranc@poliversity.itM Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
          macfranc@poliversity.it @openstars@piefed.social
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          @OpenStars I'm both disappointed and amused by this inconvenience.

          Unfortunate, because my intention was to highlight the app's qualities, not to annoy as many readers as possible.

          But I'm also amused, because unfortunately, many Lemmy apps format titles poorly, transforming #/h1 tags into something like "format a gigantic title that takes up one screen for each syllable." 🤦‍♂️🤣

          @ggtdbz

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          • macfranc@poliverso.orgM Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
            macfranc@poliverso.org @ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            @ggtdbz There's something I don't understand: from the desktop and smartphone web interface (see image), it appears the display isn't that abnormal. Do you see it differently?

            I also don't understand the reference to Mastodon: most Mastodon users write in plain text, while only users of certain forks can use formatted text. What's the problem that bothers you reading Mastodon users' comments?

            @FrederikNJS

            https://poliverso.org/photo/92835981576a2c03fdc72db823924492-0.png

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            • macfranc@poliversity.itM Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
              macfranc@poliversity.it @cannedtuna@lemmy.world
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              @cannedtuna Can you explain better what you mean? Which accounts have been active for an hour?

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              • openstars@piefed.socialO Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                openstars@piefed.social @macfranc@poliversity.it
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                I am not sure that you would get this unless I add your user tag @macfranc@poliversity.it ?

                It is not your fault. The entire Fediverse is still being built, and it only gets better over time.:-) The fact that Lemmy + PieFed + mBin + nodeBB can intercommunicate at all is fantastic, even though yes there are some kinks remaining to be worked out:-).

                My intention was to make light of the reasoning behind criticism of your post, while pointing out to Threadiverse users that once you get past that, the actual content is quite solid. So less "wall of text" than merely "odd-looking introduction". It's a good post!

                And yeah the giant text looks weird, haha! 😂 Especially since at first it is a repeat of the title, but then goes into new territory after that. I do not know if there is anything that can be done about it though, except further code development on the side of all the myriad varieties of recipients of the message.

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                • macfranc@poliverso.orgM Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                  macfranc@poliverso.org @cannedtuna@lemmy.world
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                  @cannedtuna I understand what you mean: you're referring to the post published by @lorenaal (here's Lemmy's post and here's the original on Friendica).

                  As you can see from the image, the user has been around for years (since August 8, 2021).
                  friendica.world/profile/lorena…
                  The date you find on Lemmy is because the user has likely never participated in a discussion on Lemmy.world.
                  lemmy.world/u/lorenaal@friendi…

                  I therefore ask you to amend your comment in light of the arguments I've presented.

                  https://poliverso.org/photo/16384622216a2c07e69110f327684798-0.png

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                  • lorenaal@friendica.worldL Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                    lorenaal@friendica.world @macfranc@poliverso.org
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                    @macfranc @cannedtuna How come I'm also registered on lemmy.world? I've never registered on lemmy.world.
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                    • cannedtuna@lemmy.worldC Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                      cannedtuna@lemmy.world @macfranc@poliversity.it
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                      New account, was an hour old at the time I wrote the above, first thing they do is hop to this post to comment about downloading it.

                      There’s been a slew of posts recently about new apps, primarily on !selfhosted@lemmy.world that appear to be AI coded.

                      I did see you’ve got a number of people involved in this project so, maybe it’s unwarranted suspicion. My apologies if that’s the case. Just not a fan of AI.

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                      • J Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                        jerkface@lemmy.ca @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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                        You are not gonna like the next 20 years.

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                        • cannedtuna@lemmy.worldC Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                          cannedtuna@lemmy.world @macfranc@poliverso.org
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                          Interesting how Lemmy shows the date. Fair enough.

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                          • macfranc@poliverso.orgM Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                            macfranc@poliverso.org @lorenaal@friendica.world
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                            @lorenaal no, tranquilla 😅 non ti sei mai iscritta su lemmy.world. Quella è solo la pagina del tuo account Friendica che viene riportata su un'altra istanza. Si tratta di una cosa normale, perché oggi sei "entrata" in un Thread ospitato in una community di lemmy.world e quindi è stato creato un "profilo fantasma" che serve all'istanza lemmy.world per gestire i tuoi post e le tue interazioni

                            @cannedtuna

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                            • L Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                              lokalhorst@feddit.org @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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                              There are many cases where AI is harmful, translation from Italian to English is not one of them.

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                              • macfranc@poliversity.itM Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                                macfranc@poliversity.it @cannedtuna@lemmy.world
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                                @cannedtuna

                                New account, was an hour old at the time I wrote the above, first thing they do is hop to this post to comment about downloading it.

                                ...and as I explained here, it wasn't a "new" account, but rather one that was "intercepted" by Lemmy.world only when he replied to my post.

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                                • G Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                                  givesomefucks@lemmy.world @lokalhorst@feddit.org
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                                  ...

                                  So you think OP honestly typed it themselves and just used standard AI formatting?

                                  Bro...

                                  AI may have wrote it first in Italian and then translated. But even if OP won't admit it, a human didn't write the post in any language.

                                  They're just lying because they can't image it's obvious to some people

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                                  • lorenaal@friendica.worldL Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                                    lorenaal@friendica.world @macfranc@poliverso.org
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                                    @macfranc @cannedtuna Oddio che casino! 🤯
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                                    • enzoesco@poliverso.orgE Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                                      enzoesco@poliverso.org @cannedtuna@lemmy.world
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                                      You @cannedtuna and you @givesomefucks are the new Sherlock Holmes and John Watson 🕵🧑‍💼️‍♂️
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                                      • macfranc@poliversity.itM Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                                        macfranc@poliversity.it @openstars@piefed.social
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                                        @OpenStars

                                        I am not sure that you would get this unless I add your user tag @macfranc ?

                                        Yes, I'd still get it, even if you didn't mention me. The problem arises when you reply to someone who replied to me: in that case, I might not receive the notification. Unfortunately (as often happens), the fault lies with Mastodon, not Lemmy/Piefed.

                                        It is not your fault. The entire Fediverse is still being built, and it only gets better over time.:-) The fact that Lemmy + PieFed + mBin + nodeBB can intercommunicate at all is fantastic, even though yes there are some kinks remaining to be worked out:-).

                                        I also believe this statement. Since I've been an instance administrator (Friendica, Lemmy, NodeBB, and Mastodon Glitch-soc), I've always been concerned with how the Fediverse software integrates with each other and with spreading knowledge of the various platforms

                                        My intention was to make light of the reasoning behind criticism of your post, while pointing out to Threadiverse users that once you get past that, the actual content is quite solid. So less “wall of text” than merely “odd-looking introduction”. It’s a good post!

                                        Thank you for your feedback. It's somewhere between a press release and an informational post about the Fediverse. I'm only surprised because, usually, the criticisms about length come from Mastodon users, not Lemmy users...

                                        And yeah the giant text looks weird, haha! 😂

                                        Usually, the problem is solved at the user interface level. BBCode and Markdown have a certain number of standard levels for titles, and it's up to the final interpreter (the interface) to manage their display based on the tool (desktop browser, mobile browser, mobile app, etc.).

                                        Especially since at first it is a repeat of the title, but then goes into new territory after that. I do not know if there is anything that can be done about it though, except further code development on the side of all the myriad varieties of recipients of the message.

                                        Repeating the title, on the other hand, is the best possible solution for integrating threads opened in the forumverse by microblogging users: Lemmy takes the first 200 characters of the first paragraph and converts them into a title, disabling formatting, links, and mentions. That data, however, is re-proposed at the beginning of the post text.
                                        I understand there are some issues, but I don't see any better solution than this.

                                        I should add that, unfortunately, Mastodon's recent implementation of quoted posts has made it difficult for Lemmy to manage opening posts, because Mastodon formats posts that quote another post as:

                                        Re: fedilinkhttps

                                        Post text

                                        And therefore, the title of a Lemmy thread would become
                                        "Re: fedilinkhttps" 🤬

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                                        • phantaloons@piefed.zipP Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                                          phantaloons@piefed.zip @macfranc@poliversity.it
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                                          Add in Orbot/Proxy support and I'm there day 1

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                                          • phantaloons@piefed.zipP Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                                            phantaloons@piefed.zip @jerkface@lemmy.ca
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                                            Tbf, no one will,...

                                            but still!

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