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    Michelle Yeoh Admits “We Could Have Done Better” With ‘Star Trek: Section 31’

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      thessnake03@lemmy.world @valuesubtracted@startrek.website
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      In ENT it's very heavy handed that Malcom uses to work for section 31, and they really want him back. Big part of a story arc in the last season.

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        observanttrapezium@lemmy.ca @hopesdead@startrek.website
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        Understatement of the century

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          malikmuaddibsoong@startrek.website @valuesubtracted@startrek.website
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          It’s a good distinction to make that the characters were much more interesting than the story we saw.

          I looked at a list of characters and I rank 4/7 of them as interesting, but sadly half of those were killed off :(

          Space Hitler: 👎

          Space Common: 👎

          Quasi: 👍

          Zeph 🪦: 👍

          Garrett: 👍

          Fuzz 🪦: 👎

          Melle 🪦: 👍

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            valuesubtracted@startrek.website @malikmuaddibsoong@startrek.website
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            I obviously think Georgiou is a more interesting character than you do, but other than that, I agree with this list.

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              ragas@lemmy.ml @hopesdead@startrek.website
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              Its total bullshit to place a dystopian organisation so close to the center of a utopian society. It basically calls the whole society into question.

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                buzz86us@lemmy.world @hopesdead@startrek.website
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                Let's cancel a TV show we just shot several episodes of and edit it into a movie!!

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                  valuesubtracted@startrek.website @buzz86us@lemmy.world
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                  The pivot-to-movie happened well before anything was filmed.

                  But it does seem like the "pivot" was trying to stuff ten hours of story into a two-hour bag.

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                    damage@feddit.it @valuesubtracted@startrek.website
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                    Yeah, way to focus on one part of the comment. Is it possible that Sloan just blackmailed or forced all those others into following his orders? Yes. Plausible? Eh...
                    Still, the point is the mistery, the ambiguity. Barely anyone knows they exist, Sisko, an experienced commander, didn't know about them. The bigger they make them, the more unbelievable that becomes.

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                      steletrovilo@beehaw.org @damage@feddit.it
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                      Nah. DS9 made a big point of showing people doing bad things to accomplish good goals, while always questioning if those were actually good. Nothing about Section 31 is worse than what Sisko does in "In the Pale Moonlight" for example. And after so much about the Tal Shiar, the Obsidian Order, and the actual conspiracies within Starfleet (see STVI, the season finale of TNG season 1, The Pegasus, and Insurrection), Section 31 is not a far stretch at all.

                      "Yeah, way to focus on one part of the comment."

                      Yes, people are allowed to do that.

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                        kirk@startrek.website @ragas@lemmy.ml
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                        And yet oddly enough that is not the issue with the Section 31 movie

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                          damage@feddit.it @steletrovilo@beehaw.org
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                          I love DS9 and its grey morality approach, it's a good contrast to TNG's attempts at "moral perfection", and in my comments I didn't criticize S31's existence, just that the misterious, barely there approach of DS9 was perfect for that, subsequent stories completely failed to respect the original incarnation, which in my opinion was better, and whose abandonment causes continuity issues

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                            stillpaisleycat@startrek.website @observanttrapezium@lemmy.ca
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                            This headline is a quote out of context that is being used to imply an admission.

                            I don’t mind the inference that the movie wasn’t what Yeoh had hoped it might be, but the headline is a misrepresentation of what she said.

                            What Yeoh actually said is:

                            Every time I finish a movie or something, I always think, ‘I could have done better,’ so it’s nothing new. That’s how you always have to think to improve yourself and to hopefully be better the next time.

                            My partner and I seem to be among the relatively few longtime fans who found the S31 film a blast. I still have to wonder though what we might have got if Kim and Lippoldt had been able to run the show that they originally conceived before Paramount added a male non-Asian action flick show runner ‘for experience’. The episode they wrote for Georgiou in S3 of Discovery was excellent and they have been successful writing on Sweet Tooth for seasons 2&3 since they moved on from Trek..

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                              ragas@lemmy.ml @kirk@startrek.website
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                              Ok, even better that I didn't watch it then. I had rejected the movie on principle.

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                                fixmycode@feddit.cl @hopesdead@startrek.website
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                                a lot of hate for the movie in this thread, hate the suits that develop projects based on the success of others instead of going for what has made their brand successful over the years. if they wanted new audiences they could have tried with something original, but the numbers said otherwise.

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                                  observanttrapezium@lemmy.ca @stillpaisleycat@startrek.website
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                                  Thanks for clarifying. I responded to the title only as I didn't actually care what Michelle Yeoh thinks and just want to put this sad story into the dustbin of Trekstory. Georgiou was the only mildly interesting character in Discovery and season 2 was the only mildly not-awful one, so I had moderate hopes for that movie.

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