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    Communities not existing on all instances is a big problem.

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      sackeshi@lemmy.world
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      Example, Lemmy.ml and Lemmy.world have duplicate communities aren't connected at all. So we are artificially isolating groups more and making it confusing for would be converts.

      Short and too the point

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        aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com @sackeshi@lemmy.world
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        Lemmy.ml seems to have a clone of most of the “top reddits”, somehow the most subscribed communities out there, and all dominated by one or two posters who post pro-China/pro-DPRK/anti-Western content all day long.

        It definitely is going to confuse newcomers and make a bad first impression. I wonder if they auto subscribe people to those so their propaganda ends up at the top of the communities list.

        Part of the solution is to better inform new users the part of the community name is the host, just like Main St in one city is different from Main St in another city. You choose the city you want to live in first.

        But, it may also be interesting to have the ability for admins to selectively merge like-named communities with other agreeable instance admins, and count subscribers to both as one group.

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          gigachad@sh.itjust.works @sackeshi@lemmy.world
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          Most of the time one community comes out as the strongest contester and then that one is mainly used. But people can also use communities on others instances, for example if they don't agree with moderation. When I started on Lemmy 2 years ago I was also skeptical of this concept, but now I see it as a perk. Regarding the duplicated communities on lemmy.ml, just instance block ml and you are fine.

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            sackeshi@lemmy.world @gigachad@sh.itjust.works
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            While I can see why people might prefer it that way, we are preventing communities from growing and allowing people to find communities who might want to switch from Reddit. If you prefer the UI of one to another now you have to create a brand new community which is going to take time to fill. I use old.lemmy.world because I like the old reddit UI

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            • spankmonkey@lemmy.worldS Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
              spankmonkey@lemmy.world @aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com
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              I want the ability to merge the display of communities that I choose, so any number of News, World News, HotNakedNews, etc. communities could be displayed as a group of communities based on a topic type as an alternative to the instance/community/subscribed groups. Maybe personal tags for communities would be useful.

              S bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.deB blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB 3 Risposte Ultima Risposta Rispondi Cita 0
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                sackeshi@lemmy.world @spankmonkey@lemmy.world
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                I love this leave it up to the individual. Someone who knows how to code please do this.

                blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB 1 Risposta Ultima Risposta Rispondi Cita 0
                • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                  die4ever@retrolemmy.com @sackeshi@lemmy.world
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                  If you prefer the UI of one to another now you have to create a brand new community which is going to take time to fill. I use old.lemmy.world because I like the old reddit UI

                  I think there's a misunderstanding?

                  You can use remote communities, for example: !linux@lemmy.ml for you is https://old.lemmy.world/c/linux@lemmy.ml

                  the "Old" UI seems to hide the list of communities, but it's here: https://old.lemmy.world/communities

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                    sackeshi@lemmy.world @die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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                    oh thank you for this. That helps that specific issue.

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                      cecilkorik@piefed.ca @sackeshi@lemmy.world
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                      Piefed connects them and shows you comments from other communities on other instances.

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                      • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.deB Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                        bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de @spankmonkey@lemmy.world
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                        I think Piefed supports that. Multicommunities. Was already a thing on Reddit that was calle Multireddit, I think.

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                        • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                          blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com @sackeshi@lemmy.world
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                          Piefed solves that issue: https://piefed.zip/post/100161

                          All comments from 5 crossposts in a single view

                          A few options

                          • https://piefed.social/ - flagship instance
                          • https://piefed.zip/ - lemmy.zip team
                          • https://piefed.ca/ - lemmy.ca team
                          • https://feddit.online/
                          yessikg@fedia.ioY 1 Risposta Ultima Risposta Rispondi Cita 0
                          • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                            blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com @spankmonkey@lemmy.world
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                            Piefed feeds: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/38733273

                            A few options

                            • https://piefed.social/ - flagship instance
                            • https://piefed.zip/ - lemmy.zip team
                            • https://piefed.ca/ - lemmy.ca team
                            • https://feddit.online/
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                            • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                              blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com @sackeshi@lemmy.world
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                              Piefed feeds: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/38733273

                              A few options

                              • https://piefed.social/ - flagship instance
                              • https://piefed.zip/ - lemmy.zip team
                              • https://piefed.ca/ - lemmy.ca team
                              • https://feddit.online/
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                              • yessikg@fedia.ioY Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                                yessikg@fedia.io @blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                There's also the pretty new: piefed.blahaj.zone

                                blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB 1 Risposta Ultima Risposta Rispondi Cita 0
                                • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                                  blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com @yessikg@fedia.io
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                                  Indeed, thanks!

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                                  • rglullis@communick.newsR Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                                    rglullis@communick.news @sackeshi@lemmy.world
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                                    One of the things that I'm experimenting with is to have "communities that can follow communities". So, if community A follows community B, then it can re-post anything that has happened on Community B.

                                    If you do it "properly", it doesn't even need to be a lot of data duplication because the "follower" community would just be creating Announce activities.

                                    The only thing that is making me hold out on this experiment is because I am 100% sure that some people will see their posts on a community they never interacted on and they will panic on the grounds of "mah privacy" or something silly like that.

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                                      can@sh.itjust.works @sackeshi@lemmy.world
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                                      Federation fixes most of it. I can follow the big community that's become the main one and still the smaller ones with their own focuses and views.

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                                      • J Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                                        jet@hackertalks.com @rglullis@communick.news
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                                        How would comments happen? Would they not get back to the original poster?

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                                        • julian@community.nodebb.orgJ Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                                          julian@community.nodebb.org @rglullis@communick.news
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                                          Hi! We should chat.

                                          NodeBB also does this, and currently still does. A category (group actor) can follow another category (also a group actor).

                                          It essentially is synchronization of categories using 1b12.

                                          Proof of concept does work but it needs reworking in some ways. The largest issue is that Lemmy itself doesn't understand when a group actor tries to follow a community.

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                                          • rglullis@communick.newsR Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                                            rglullis@communick.news @jet@hackertalks.com
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                                            Sorry, but this will be a bit too technical...

                                            The thing is that Lemmy (at least, others probably do the same) don't treat the Linked Data as the canonical representation, they work by translating every message with an as:Activity to their own internal representation in the database (with separate tables for Posts, Comments and PrivateMessages).

                                            This means that all it takes for a Lemmy instance to treat a post as "new" comment is to produce an "as:Announce" attributed to the "follower" community, and then all instances will process it as a new post/comment/vote.

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