Spacc BBS Spacc BBS
    • Categorie
    • Recenti
    • Tag
    • Popolare
    • Mondo
    • Utenti
    • Gruppi
    • Registrati
    • Accedi
    La nuova BBS è in fase Alpha. I post precedenti al 22 luglio 2024 potrebbero non essere trasferibili, ma rimarranno disponibili per la lettura su /old/.

    TIL that #solarPanels also have bad consequences :D

    Pianificato Fissato Bloccato Spostato Uncategorized
    solarpanels
    21 Post 9 Autori 0 Visualizzazioni
    Caricamento altri post
    • Da Vecchi a Nuovi
    • Da Nuovi a Vecchi
    • Più Voti
    Rispondi
    • Topic risposta
    Effettua l'accesso per rispondere
    Questa discussione è stata eliminata. Solo gli utenti con diritti di gestione possono vederla.
    • alorenzi@livellosegreto.itA Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
      alorenzi@livellosegreto.it @valhalla@social.gl-como.it
      ultima modifica di

      @valhalla domanda sciocca, cosa succede all'eletricitá in eccesso? si surriscalda qualcosa? O si manda in grid a gratis?

      valhalla@social.gl-como.itV 1 Risposta Ultima Risposta Rispondi Cita 0
      • valhalla@social.gl-como.itV Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
        valhalla@social.gl-como.it @mr_gharice@mastodon.social
        ultima modifica di

        @Mr_GHARice @mdione @float13 @srtcd424 there is a bit in the inverter box that decides whether to recharge the batteries, deliver energy to the hourse or send it back to the grid, and it had been setup not to deliver energy to the grid, until the meter is ready for it

        otherwise, the meter would have happily registered it as energy passing through it, and billed us for it

        it's not the system that shuts everything down when there is a power outage, as there often is a trickle of energy going up into the grid according to the monitoring system, enough to be dangerous for people working on the outage, but not significant for billing reasons.

        1 Risposta Ultima Risposta Rispondi Cita 0
        • mdione@en.osm.townM Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
          mdione@en.osm.town @mr_gharice@mastodon.social
          ultima modifica di

          @Mr_GHARice I think you're answering a different question, that of "what happens if the main grid generators go down (f.i., disconnected from the grid) and the solar panel is still connected". My question was "what happens if there is no load", and similarly, "who actually provides the energy if there is load, solar vs grid; and what happens to what is generated but not used". On the grid side it's regulated by generating more or less energy depending on load.

          @srtcd424 @valhalla @float13

          valhalla@social.gl-como.itV 1 Risposta Ultima Risposta Rispondi Cita 0
          • valhalla@social.gl-como.itV Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
            valhalla@social.gl-como.it @alorenzi@livellosegreto.it
            ultima modifica di

            @alorenzi magic :D

            i pannelli non producono oltre quanto viene richiesto dai carichi

            (suppongo ci sia un po' di calore in più da qualche parte, visto che il sole ha colpito la superficie, ma non a sufficienza da causare problemi)

            1 Risposta Ultima Risposta Rispondi Cita 0
            • valhalla@social.gl-como.itV Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
              valhalla@social.gl-como.it @mdione@en.osm.town
              ultima modifica di

              @mdione @srtcd424 @Mr_GHARice @float13 the smart bit inside the inverter box decides how much energy should be taken by the panels, batteries or grid, and how much energy should go to the house, batteries, or grid

              the panels are ok with only providing less energy than they could produce, with no ill effects, because electovoltaics are *magic*; (I assume that there is a bit more heat going around, but still less than what would have been released by the sun hitting a dark-ish roof, so easily dissipated)

              1 Risposta Ultima Risposta Rispondi Cita 0
              • valhalla@social.gl-como.itV Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                valhalla@social.gl-como.it @srtcd424@mas.to
                ultima modifica di

                @srtcd424 @float13 @mdione indeed, in both safety and ability to scale down photovoltaics are much better than wind turbines

                (which is why wind turbines are mostly a power plant level thing, while photovoltaic on the home is often a better choice even in places with more wind than sun)

                (also, this is definitely a case of whyNotBoth, each in its own suitable environment)

                1 Risposta Ultima Risposta Rispondi Cita 0
                • cate@mastodon.xyzC Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                  cate@mastodon.xyz @mdione@en.osm.town
                  ultima modifica di

                  @mdione @valhalla @float13 it is not generated, so it becomes like a dark wall (so still absorbing heat, but no photo-electric-effect in place).

                  @valhalla luckily we are in winter, else you should iron and solder and weld all days.

                  valhalla@social.gl-como.itV 1 Risposta Ultima Risposta Rispondi Cita 0
                  • valhalla@social.gl-como.itV Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                    valhalla@social.gl-como.it @cate@mastodon.xyz
                    ultima modifica di

                    @cate @mdione @float13 our soldering iron is something like 20W, basically irrelevant

                    and I don't have a welder, nor can use it (yet)

                    I suspect that the clothes iron isn't that much of a load either, at least once it's up to temperature, because it's rated 2.2 kW or something, but it's also on for very short periods of time, I should take some actual measurement

                    the same applies to the kettle: rated 2.2 kW, but for a tea it only stays on for a couple of minutes, so it's less than 100 Wh

                    1 Risposta Ultima Risposta Rispondi Cita 0
                    • tk@sunmine.deT Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                      tk@sunmine.de @valhalla@social.gl-como.it
                      ultima modifica di

                      @valhalla i can recommend vacuuming the house or baking cake/casserole?
                      For the advanced users: Charging the EV or Water heating via heatpump

                      valhalla@social.gl-como.itV 1 Risposta Ultima Risposta Rispondi Cita 0
                      • valhalla@social.gl-como.itV Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
                        valhalla@social.gl-como.it @tk@sunmine.de
                        ultima modifica di

                        @tk honestly, ironing clothes is less of a chore than vacuuming :D (we usually do it a bit at a time with a rechargeable vacuum)

                        (and baking, considering a number of food restrictions, would have required too much prep time, ending up happening after the peak of electricity production)

                        (heat pumps for water heating have been postponed to “when we can save a bit more money for it, and hopefully the prices will have gone down a bit, because right now all of the quotes we're getting are (probably oversized but) extortionate”)

                        1 Risposta Ultima Risposta Rispondi Cita 0
                        • Primo post
                          Ultimo post