I am always seeing news stories about men getting caught not wearing pants (trousers) on webcam or seeing them openly fantasize about not having to wear pants.
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I am always seeing news stories about men getting caught not wearing pants (trousers) on webcam or seeing them openly fantasize about not having to wear pants. I have to conclude y’all find them extremely uncomfortable. May I suggest: skirts? Pants were invented to make it easier to ride horses. Most civilizations that didn’t do a lot of horse riding have traditionally garbed men in skirts. You can in fact just wear a skirt. You can call it a kilt if that helps
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@0xabad1dea I would wear a skirt, but only if there are pockets. I was tempted by the Debian kilt, but it was amazing expensive and no pockets
I'm still amazed by how people keep putting up with impractical or uncomfortable clothes...
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@0xabad1dea Which brings up the broader question: why do people collectively create the social expectation that forces them to wear clothes that they themselves hate to wear (pants, bras, pointy or spiky shoes)? Is this some kind of masochism?
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@Twotired usually what happens is that they start as signals of wealth ("I don't need to dress practically because I don't labor") and then lower-class people imitate it to try to gain more respect and the cycle is complete when literally everyone is wearing it despite it being inconvenient and the rich move on to a new signal
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@pvaneynd @0xabad1dea to be fair the Debian kilt is the tailor made formal wear kind of kilt, not an utilitkilt or the like
and like @swoonie said, the pocket is there, it's just detached
compared to other clothing of a similar formality level it doesn't look that impractical (and depending on the weather it may even be more comfortable than the alternatives)
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@0xabad1dea @Twotired I think that in some cases it's also just different people having wildly different ideas on what is comfortable to wear
Take jeans¹, for example: they were born as work clothing, so they couldn't be *too* impractical (and they definitely weren't a signal of wealth), and yet some people just hate wearing them, while others keep using them as work wear and would feel uncomfortable wearing anything else.
And I don't think that any of them are lying or self-deluded, just people being people and having wildly different tastes.
And then of course you get cases where a significant minority loves wearing something, a majority or so doesn't really care, and you get a social expectation that another significant minority will hate. And yeah, can we please stop enforcing those social expectations on those minorities, ideally while allowing the other minority to enjoy them? say, provide valid alternatives?
¹ pre-distressed jeans are 100% a signal of wealth and a moral failure and a sign of the imminent fall of civilization or something, but I don't think they are in any way less comfortable than a regular pair of jeans, so the difference should be only in the look?
