The state of conversational contexts (February 2025)
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Ok I tried this as as a root post
It didnt get there.
Whereas I can post into that community with my similar named lemm.ee account -
.. in medicine@mander.xyz group nothing arrived
There is a post I made earlier (using isurg@lemm.ee) but not this latest one from isurg@nodebb
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@eeeee Thanks, can you open an issue about this? I'll have to see what Lemmy expects for a new submission.
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@julian I tested out a root post that mentioned a PieFed community, and it got there okay - it's viewable at https://pythag.net/c/sci_fi (and federated out okay to another PieFed instance at https://palaver.p3x.de/c/sci_fi@pythag.net)
My guess as to why Lemmy might not like it is that the activity contains:
"audience": "https://community.nodebb.org/category/-1"It looks like Lemmy tries to fetch that and can't parse the response.
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@freamon oh! You're right on the money.
For whatever reason, Lemmy always checks
audienceeven though it doesn't need to.I brought this up for discussion in their github, and it resulted in @nutomic@lemmy.ml removing parsing of
audiencealtogether!So this might actually be a moot point once more Lemmy instances update, but I am not 100% sure.
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@silverpill@mitra.social this is now tested and outgoing backfill is working with NodeBB.
Are there plans to introduce post collections to all levels via context?
While there is utility in exposing it for the root-level, if I am
Announce'd one of the replies (e.g. this one), there is no explicit link to the top-level post in order to discovercontext. -
@julian Sure, I will add
contextto replies. Maybe in the next release -
@mario@hub.somaton.com when you say "internally backfills", I'm assuming you mean between Hubzilla instances?
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I still cant post into a community on Lemmy from a nodebb instance.
Ive had more tries and looked at other posts from other sites, which are going in. It seems they are directed in there somehow, not just by mentioning the group in the post.
@julian did you get any idea on this?Heres an example of a nodebb post that went nowhere!
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@eeeee it is likely due to
audience.So, what happens on your end is you make a topic and mention the Lemmy community.
When NodeBB federates that post out, the Lemmy community is included in the mentions, but it also specifies your category 18, World Chat, in
audience.If Lemmy sees that, and it doesn't know about that community already, it will drop the activity immediately. If it does, then it will likely slot the post into the "World Chat on isurg.com" community on that Lemmy instance.
Lemmy removed
audiencechecking, so this might be a non-issue. Once that Lemmy instance updates to the latest version, it'll hopefully post to the correct community.That's a tricky one, though, because which community should it post to?
- "Medicine" on mander.xyz, or
- "World Chat" on isurg.com?
