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    It's not an ethical dilemma.

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      It's not an ethical dilemma. If a HUMAN driver got into a situation where they had to choose between hitting and killing a granny or baby, we'd rightly jail them for many years for reckless/dangerous driving.

      A self-driving vehicle should be incapable of operating in a manner equivalent to a reckless human driver.

      If a self-driving vehicle is capable of getting into such a situation, the car manufacturer is responsible for a crime of homicide and should be punished.

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      Attached: 1 image It's concerning to me that this """ethical dilemma""" comes up so frequently regarding self-driving cars. Does self-driving mean *never slows or stops*? Are self-driving cars all designed after the bus in Speed?

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        @cstross to be honest, in that specific situation I'd also jail the planners involved in putting a pedestrian crossing just past a blind curve on a street with a speed limit too high to allow cars to stop before the pedestrian crossing.
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          @valhalla @cstross The "speed limit" you are referring to is, at least in German law, only one of 4 categories of speed limits: general speed limit according to road class, posted speed limit signs, being able to stop within sight range, and adaption of speed to the circumstances.

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            @tessarakt @cstross that's more or less the same in Italian law.

            However I would expect¹ permanent circumstances such as a tight curve or a pedestrian crossing to be properly indicated in advance with signs and, if needed, a lower posted speed limit, and to have to adapt myself to circumstance that are changeable, such as the weather or works (these should come with a lower posted speed limit, tbf) or the road being full of protestors or whatever.

            ¹ not that I'd *trust* them to always do it. posted speed limits in Italy tend to be chosen by mysterious processes, in many cases

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