@olasd @bert_hubert this one, right?bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrep…(sigh, for a second there I had been hoping)for a while I tried to use jangouts, which is in Debian, but it was pretty limited, and I ended up installing jitsi from the upstream deb packages on a machine with only few other non-important services, and up to now it has worked mostly smoothly, with the packages managing all of the moving parts on its own.I can't say I'm happy, but I'm not unhappy either